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What we learned this week from Dr Neal Barnard during our Wisdom Walk

Reversing Disease by Redefining Medicine with Dr. Neal Barnard

NHA Podcast - Hosted by Dr Frank Sabatino

Wisdom Walks are facilitated by Sia Hurst

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As a recognized authority on the benefits of a plant-based lifestyle, Dr. Frank Sabatino has cared for and inspired thousands of people for over 40 years. Dr. Sabatino has a PhD in cell biology and neuroendocrinology and has done extensive landmark research on calorie restriction, stress, and aging. He currently is on staff at the TrueNorth Health Foundation in Santa Rosa, CA, and serves as the Director of Health Education at the NHA.

We are grateful to the NHA for allowing us to use their podcasts exclusively for all of our Wisdom Walks. Please consider becoming a member of this amazing organization.


Dr. Neal Barnard is one of the most recognized experts in the field of food as medicine, who has made it his life’s work to raise awareness about lifestyle choices. During this episode of the NHA Health Science podcast, Dr. Frank Sabatino digs deep with Dr. Barnard into how lifestyle choices impact diabetes, heart disease, menopause, and other all-too-common health challenges, laying the foundation for a deeper exploration of Dr. Barnard’s invaluable contributions to this critical conversation.

Dr. Barnard’s research emphasizes the potential of lifestyle changes, particularly adopting a plant-exclusive diet, in managing and even reversing Type II diabetes. By eliminating animal products and minimizing oil consumption, his patients, as well as participants in various studies, experienced profound results, showcasing the remarkable influence of dietary choices on health outcomes.


As we were walking and learning together yesterday during our Wisdom Walk, I managed to take a few notes and I would like to share a few of the ideas which impacted me in some way. I am paraphrasing what I heard during the interview - filtered by my own mitote of ideas and thoughts.

I took plenty of notes and learned so much from Dr Barnard and Dr Sabatino about their own practices and how to overcome obstacles from living this lifestyle.

As always, it just pure pleasure to listen to Dr Barnard share both his personal story and his amazing knowledge. Here is just a bit of what I was able to take notes on whilst moving!

  • Dr Barnard is a musician - boy would I love to hear him and Dr Sabatino jam together someday! Dr Barnard's band is called Carbon Works

  • His 'aha' moment came during an autopsy and what plaque really looks like

  • His father was also specialized in diabetes in his medical practice

  • The goal then was to simply slow down the progression and the complications

  • In 2003 the NIH provided a grant to study the CAUSE of diabetes - fat, not sugar!

  • Exercise can help but nutrition is the true KEY to open the LOCK to our cells

  • Diabetes attacks ALL arteries throughout the body - even the brain

  • Diabetes impacts our immune and endocrine systems

  • This means more dis-ease and hormonal imbalances are linked to diabetes

  • Basics in nutrition - less fat, more fiber and whole plants

  • Soy beans are amazing and now I want to eat them every day!!!

  • They can help with menopausal symptoms - hot flashes, hormonal imbalances, etc

  • Anthocyathins are amazing antioxidants & have powerful metabolic benefits

  • "Insights from a PCRM study, published in JAMA Network Open, reveal that adopting a healthy plant-based diet can be cost-effective, leading to overall savings in food purchases by as much as 16%. Dr. Barnard underscores the importance of accessible and evidence-based resources in promoting widespread adoption of plant-based lifestyles."

Thank you to Dr Neal Barnard and Dr Sabatino for a wonderful interview together, for getting us moving whilst learning and for the joy and knowledge you both continue to share with us all - you have our gratitude.

Dr. Neal Barnard will be presenting at the 2024 NHA Annual Conference in Ohio. Although the event is sold out you can still attend virtually - SIMPLY CLICK HERE TO REGISTER!

Please note that although 6D is an official affiliate, any proceeds from virtual reservations will be donated back to the NHA AND NOT KEPT BY 6D LIVING.


Each week, on Wednesday, we will meet on zoom as a community for our Wisdom Walk together. This FREE weekly event is open to all 6D Living Members and there is absolutely no obligation to attend each week. We will connect for each meeting via zoom and Sia will share the audio of the podcast with everyone via her computer. We will be able to see one another in the zoom room and chat in the zoom chat.

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Reversing Disease by Redefining Medicine with Dr. Neal Barnard


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